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::Thank you, working in progress.
 
::Thank you, working in progress.
 
::I made a simple script to help me unify the content, wanna test it just now on <samp>Sizau@sizau_bot</samp> but I got this when trying <samp>'action': 'edit'</samp>:
 
::I made a simple script to help me unify the content, wanna test it just now on <samp>Sizau@sizau_bot</samp> but I got this when trying <samp>'action': 'edit'</samp>:
::code: <samp>permissiondenied</samp>, info: <samp>The action you have requested is limited to users in the group: [[Stardew Valley Wiki:用户|用户]].</samp>
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::code: <samp>permissiondenied</samp>, info: <samp>The action you have requested is limited to users in the group: '''Stardew Valley Wiki:用户|用户'''.</samp>
 
::How can I solve this problem? [[User:Sizau|Sizau]]([[User talk:Sizau|讨论]]) 2023年2月24日 (五) 15:11 (UTC)
 
::How can I solve this problem? [[User:Sizau|Sizau]]([[User talk:Sizau|讨论]]) 2023年2月24日 (五) 15:11 (UTC)
 
:::It sounds like you were trying to edit from an account that doesn't exist. I don't really understand what <samp>Sizau@sizau_bot</samp> is, so I don't really understand what you were trying to do. But the error message means that who or whatever was trying to edit the wiki wasn't logged in, or doesn't have an account. Your username [[User:Sizau]] is a valid member of the "Users" (用户) group.
 
:::It sounds like you were trying to edit from an account that doesn't exist. I don't really understand what <samp>Sizau@sizau_bot</samp> is, so I don't really understand what you were trying to do. But the error message means that who or whatever was trying to edit the wiki wasn't logged in, or doesn't have an account. Your username [[User:Sizau]] is a valid member of the "Users" (用户) group.
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::I'd change the redirect [[农场主]] to [[耕种#耕种技能|farming skill]], too.--[[User:Shirotsuki|Shirotsuki]]([[User talk:Shirotsuki|讨论]]) 2023年7月8日 (六) 08:06 (UTC)
 
::I'd change the redirect [[农场主]] to [[耕种#耕种技能|farming skill]], too.--[[User:Shirotsuki|Shirotsuki]]([[User talk:Shirotsuki|讨论]]) 2023年7月8日 (六) 08:06 (UTC)
 
:::It seems you've already changed that redirect page to a disambiguation page, so my work on it is done, correct? :) [[User:Margotbean|margotbean]]([[User talk:Margotbean|讨论]]) 2023年7月8日 (六) 18:13 (UTC)
 
:::It seems you've already changed that redirect page to a disambiguation page, so my work on it is done, correct? :) [[User:Margotbean|margotbean]]([[User talk:Margotbean|讨论]]) 2023年7月8日 (六) 18:13 (UTC)
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::::Yeah~ Thank you for helping to move the page! 😉--[[User:Shirotsuki|Shirotsuki]]([[User talk:Shirotsuki|讨论]]) 2023年7月9日 (日) 13:47 (UTC)
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== Replace Text ==
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Hello! I left a message on the page [[Talk:采集]] for you earlier. Since I haven't received a response yet, I'm posting the message here again to kindly ask for your attention, as this issue requires your assistance.
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We native speakers would love to undertake the project of updating the wiki. However, we don't have access to [[Special:ReplaceText]]. Seems that this feature is only accessible to administrators. So, is there any possibility that you could grant us the authorization? If not, could you please do the replacements for us?
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Plus, there is a similar renaming problem with the page "[[talk:打造|crafting]]". The "hammer tab" used to be translated as 打造, but now in v1.5 it's 制造. However, v1.5 only changed the wording of the "hammer tab", while the old wording is still used in other places in the game. I'm not sure if we need to make any changes.
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It would be very helpful if you could take a moment to check and reply to my message. Thanks! --[[User:Shirotsuki|Shirotsuki]]([[User talk:Shirotsuki|讨论]]) 2023年8月6日 (日) 08:48 (UTC)
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:Hello Shirotsuki! I've been trying to follow the conversations about crafting & foraging, but I'm at a disadvantage since I can't read Chinese.
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:Unfortunately, I can't give you access to the find/replace tool. With what I can read on the talk pages, it seems like there is a concise list of items on [[Talk:采集]] that need to be replaced, which I thought would be perfect for a native speaker. The last thing I can read on [[Talk:打造]] is that the game uses 2 different translations. So, if there is a large batch of changes needed, I can use the find/replace tool, but you have to give me very specific instructions for what changes to make (in English). Otherwise, I see only one page that's been updated by a native speaker in all this time, surely you're not looking at edits that need to be made and waiting for the admin to do them?
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:Please advise! Thank you so much for all your hard work, and I'm sorry the language barrier exists for me! [[User:Margotbean|margotbean]]([[User talk:Margotbean|讨论]]) 2023年8月6日 (日) 20:42 (UTC)
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::Hi, sorry for not responding in time, I have been unwell recently.
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::We native speakers are well aware that it's our responsibility to take care of the ZH wiki. And, if we're capable of handling something ourselves, we certainly wouldn't pass it on to the admin. Unfortunately, we do not have access to the find/replace tool, so we were seeking your help on [[Talk:采集]].
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::So, please allow me to clarify the situation: Someone noticed that the translation for "foraging" is changed, and you've updated the title of the page [[采集|foraging]]. However, there are still many words on the ZH wiki that are using outdated translations. Sizau was trying to remind you that the subheadings and categories also need to be updated to make the wiki consistent, and we do not have access to the find/replace tool to do a global replacement.
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::Here is the list of items that need to be replaced, compiled by Sizau:
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::{| class="wikitable"
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|-
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! Replace !! With
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|-
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| 可觅食物品 || 可采集物品
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|-
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| 觅食经验值 || 采集经验值
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|-
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| <nowiki>[[采集#觅食技能]]</nowiki>  ||  <nowiki>[[采集#采集技能]]</nowiki>
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|-
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| <nowiki>[[采集#觅食物品]]</nowiki>  ||  <nowiki>[[采集#可采集物品]]</nowiki>
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|-
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| <nowiki>[[Category:觅食]]</nowiki>  ||  <nowiki>[[Category:采集]]</nowiki>
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|-
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| <nowiki>[[Category:春季觅食]]</nowiki>  ||  <nowiki>[[Category:春季采集]]</nowiki>
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|-
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| <nowiki>[[Category:夏季觅食]]</nowiki>  ||  <nowiki>[[Category:夏季采集]]</nowiki>
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|-
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| <nowiki>[[Category:秋季觅食]]</nowiki>  ||  <nowiki>[[Category:秋季采集]]</nowiki>
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|-
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| <nowiki>[[Category:冬季觅食]]</nowiki>  ||  <nowiki>[[Category:冬季采集]]</nowiki>
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|-
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| <nowiki>[[Category:岛屿觅食]]</nowiki>  ||  <nowiki>[[Category:岛屿采集]]</nowiki>
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|-
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| <nowiki>[[Category:沙滩觅食]]</nowiki>  ||  <nowiki>[[Category:沙滩采集]]</nowiki>
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|-
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| <nowiki>[[Category:沙漠觅食]]</nowiki>  ||  <nowiki>[[Category:沙漠采集]]</nowiki>
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|-
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| <nowiki>[[Category:矿井觅食]]</nowiki>  ||  <nowiki>[[Category:矿井采集]]</nowiki>
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|}
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::After the replacement is done, we will check it again <!--by searching for the old wording--> to see if there are any further changes needed.
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::As for "crafting", yes, the game is using 2 different translations. I'm not quite sure what to do with it, and I'm also afraid that it might change in the upcoming v1.6. I think it's better that we keep "crafting" in the current state until version 1.6 is released.--[[User:Shirotsuki|Shirotsuki]]([[User talk:Shirotsuki|讨论]]) 2023年8月13日 (日) 19:25 (UTC)
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:::I'm very sorry to hear that you've been unwell, I do hope you're feeling better. Thank you for the clear list of changes to make! I've made all requested changes and moved categories, so there should be very few (if any) more changes to make. 🤞
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:::It seems wise to wait for v1.6 for crafting changes. If you've reported the errors on the forums, I know they've been sent to translators for review. Thanks for everything! [[User:Margotbean|margotbean]]([[User talk:Margotbean|讨论]]) 2023年8月13日 (日) 22:37 (UTC)
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::::{| class="wikitable"
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|-
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| <nowiki>[[采集#觅食技能</nowiki>  ||  <nowiki>[[采集#采集技能</nowiki>
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|-
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| <nowiki>[[采集#觅食物品</nowiki>  ||  <nowiki>[[采集#可采集物品</nowiki>
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|-
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| <nowiki>[[技能#觅食</nowiki>  ||  <nowiki>[[技能#采集</nowiki>
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|-
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| <nowiki>==觅食==</nowiki>  ||  <nowiki>==采集==</nowiki>
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|-
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| <nowiki>觅食]]</nowiki>  ||  <nowiki>采集]]</nowiki>
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|}
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::::Still reviewing other pages that require updates currently... [[User:Sizau|时舟]]([[User talk:Sizau|讨论]]) 2023年8月14日 (一) 14:08 (UTC)
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::::Thank you, Margotbean, I do feel better now.
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::::I searched for the old wording and found that there are still a few changes that need to be made. I think they can be fixed by replacing all "觅食" with "采集" ('''except for''' the talk pages, Template:Description, and [[模组:物品数据|Modding:Object data]]). Thank you for your hard work! --[[User:Shirotsuki|Shirotsuki]]([[User talk:Shirotsuki|讨论]]) 2023年8月14日 (一) 15:00 (UTC)
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:::::Done! The last replacement (replacing all "觅食" with "采集", except in talk pages) was 103 pages. Whew! Thank you for the clear instructions (in English), and let me know if there is more to do to fix foraging in ZH. [[User:Margotbean|margotbean]]([[User talk:Margotbean|讨论]]) 2023年8月14日 (一) 16:05 (UTC)
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::::::Perfect! Thanks for everything!--[[User:Shirotsuki|Shirotsuki]]([[User talk:Shirotsuki|讨论]]) 2023年8月15日 (二) 15:25 (UTC)
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== Homepage logo and developer logo ==
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1. The logo on the Chinese homepage is too wide, see [[Talk:Stardew Valley Wiki#Logo is too wide]].
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2. The developer logo [[:File:Developed By Image ZH.gif]] and [[:File:Developed By Image small ZH.gif]] was updated in v1.4 and should be replaced.
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--[[User:Stevenlele|Stevenlele]]([[User talk:Stevenlele|讨论]]) 2023年12月4日 (一) 08:35 (UTC)
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:I will put it on my "to do" list to update the "Developed by" images, but I wouldn't expect it before v1.6 is released. I tried playing around with the sizes of the home page, and I think they're as good as they can be. 400px is way too small, so I adjusted the images alongside it, and it looked awful. [[User:Margotbean|margotbean]]([[User talk:Margotbean|讨论]]) 2023年12月4日 (一) 17:31 (UTC)
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== QQ Group Initiative ==
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I'm considering creating a QQ group (the most common means of communication in mainland China) in the name of the official wiki and would like to ask if it's feasible. The current method - discussion page is not very user-friendly (in fact, most people haven't understood the correct format), [[User:Sizau|时舟]]([[User talk:Sizau|讨论]]) 2024年3月23日 (六) 18:30 (UTC)
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Additionally, I've noticed that the time format for Simplified Chinese has now been changed to the 24-hour system - could we consider globally replacing the old time texts? [[User:Sizau|时舟]]([[User talk:Sizau|讨论]]) 2024年3月23日 (六) 18:32 (UTC)
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:We can't have an official QQ group unless it's endorsed by ConcernedApe. And honestly, not understanding how to use talk pages because people haven't read [[帮助:编辑入门]] isn't really an excuse to create one. Also, "we" don't have time to do global find & replace right now! We can't even keep up with the number of changes on the EN wiki! [[User:Margotbean|margotbean]]([[User talk:Margotbean|讨论]]) 2024年3月24日 (日) 01:38 (UTC)
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::Alternatively, if it's not possible to have an official QQ group, could we at least create an unofficial QQ group for ZH l10n editors? It's not just about making things easier for newcomers imho. (I'm not sure whether the ZH wiki could mention it - if we really have an unofficial one - on any main page, and I guess the answer is no.) By the way I noticed that the English main site has a header message for new editors (“'''New editors: Please read Help:Editing...'''”). I think adding this message to the ZH site would be helpful too. [[User:Dveïssre|Dveïssre]]([[User talk:Dveïssre|讨论]]) 2024年3月24日 (日) 09:40 (UTC)
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:::Hello Dveïssre! I can't control what unofficial groups are created, but I do wish discussion about the wiki would take place on the wiki.
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:::I'd love to add a sitewide message like in English, but I don't speak Chinese. I would need a good translation first. [[User:Margotbean|margotbean]]([[User talk:Margotbean|讨论]]) 2024年3月24日 (日) 16:16 (UTC)
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::::After discussing with Sizau, here's the translation I propose: "<nowiki>致新编辑者:着笔前请先阅读[[Help:编辑入门]]!<br>创建的新页面若无“历史”章节将会被删除。感谢您的理解。</nowiki>"[[User:Dveïssre|Dveïssre]]([[User talk:Dveïssre|讨论]] | [[User:Sizau#讨论群|群组]]) 2024年3月25日 (一) 13:21 (UTC)
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== On Semi-Automated Editing ==
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Hello! I'd like to inquire about Stardew Valley Wiki's stance on '''semi'''-automated editing. In recent localisation efforts, I've encountered some highly repetitive editing tasks, such as dealing with unnecessary spaces and half-width characaters. For the sake of efficiency I'm considering using [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:AutoWikiBrowser AutoWikiBrowser], which is designed to assist manual editing rather than make bot edits, to handle these tasks, and I thought it best to ask for your opinion first. --[[User:Dveïssre|Dveïssre]]([[User talk:Dveïssre|讨论]] | [[User:Sizau#讨论群|群组]]) 2024年3月27日 (三) 14:43 (UTC)
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:It's a fine idea, AutoWikiBrowser is a good product, and it lets you review the edits before saving them. [[User:Margotbean|margotbean]]([[User talk:Margotbean|讨论]]) 2024年3月27日 (三) 17:00 (UTC)
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== The translation about modding page. ==
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I found that many modding page just has English version. If I want to translate them into Chinese, I may create many Modding pages. At the same time, due to the particularity of this kind of page, it is difficult to translate it completely, there may be some words that I am not good at translating and leaving in English, but it may be difficult for someone to translate this kind of page even if it is tagged with "need translate", and I wonder if I should start to do it.Thanks in advance for your reply. [[User:Yyzjiben|Yyzjiben]]([[User talk:Yyzjiben|讨论]]) 2024年4月14日 (日) 05:54 (UTC)
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:Hello! I would advise "no" because the game is still changing. There will be a version 1.6.4 and maybe more. Also, several modding pages are not up-to-date as of version 1.6.3 in English. So, it would be wasted effort right now. [[User:Margotbean|margotbean]]([[User talk:Margotbean|讨论]]) 2024年4月14日 (日) 17:48 (UTC)
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